On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:49 PM, kenbunting@bellsouth.net <kenbunting@bellsouth.net> wrote:

 

Marjorie, it seems to me that the tract Harrisons Outlet to Erasmus
Harrison 1759, issued by Wor Co Md, must have ended up in Wor Co during
the resurveys c 1775-76. It apparently lay just South of Cows Quarter right at the state line, close to where Rte 113 is now. Do you have any other information on this? Ken

--
Marjorie
"Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:53 PM, KENNETH BUNTING <kenbunting@bellsouth.net> wrote:

 

Thanks, Marjorie, for this helpful information.  When you went to visit your relatives, how far from Gumboro Rd would you say their farm was?  The reason I ask is that Cow Quarter 1760 was 100 acres and the plat for it fits easily between Gumboro Road and the state line.  The location matches the instructions in the plat (i.e. NE side of Pig Pen Swamp) very well.  It also places it next to David Murray's Bush, and Dupont Blvd runs through the east side of Bush.  Ken 

---

From: marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net>
To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 7:25:45 PM
Subject: Re: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Harrisons Outlet 1759

 

Ken,
Apparently "Harrison's Outlet" was mostly in Wor. It appears on a map sent to me from the Worcester Rm of Wor Public Library in Snow Hill, n.d. but labeled Worcester Co. MD, Western Part, St. Martins, No. 5, Election Distric, Map No 31 It appears that a teeny portion of it was in DE. It was east of Cow Quarter, not south. My 4gr grandfather Severn Murray of James Jr (m Nancy McCabe of Arthur) bought in 1820 51A of it from Solomon Carey. I do not know if his purchase included the DE portion. He was said to have lived in Whaleysville.

"Cow Quarter" is also a property that was in my family. It was also mostly in Wor, according to the map cited above, but had a slightly larger portion in DE. It was passed down from David Murray (son of James Sr.and brother of James Jr.), sold to son John, bequeathed to son Lott, sold to Henrietta & husband Charles Henry Long (my grandmother was born there),  to son Frank Long. I have childhood memories of going there, out Gumboro Rd. turning to the south. Since Harrison's Outlet was east of it it would have been abt. where 113 is today.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:49 PM, kenbunting@bellsouth.net <kenbunting@bellsouth.net> wrote:

 

Marjorie, it seems to me that the tract Harrisons Outlet to Erasmus
Harrison 1759, issued by Wor Co Md, must have ended up in Wor Co during
the resurveys c 1775-76. It apparently lay just South of Cows Quarter right at the state line, close to where Rte 113 is now. Do you have any other information on this? Ken

--
Marjorie
"Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

--
Marjorie
"Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "kenbunting@..." <kenbunting@...> wrote:
>
> I've updated the map of Sandy Branch Community with additional
> information. Sorry that to include some of this I have had to expand
> the area, which may make it harder to view, but keeping it the same
> size would have made the print hard to read. The area covered now
> is about 3.6 miles W to E and 3 miles N to S. Please comment and send in whatever you can add. Kindly make your comments in messages since making a reply often requires too much space for that venue. Ken
>

On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:07 PM, KENNETH BUNTING <kenbunting@bellsouth.net> wrote:

 

Marjorie, try as I might, I can't seem to get the Murrays unravelled and I appreciate your explanation.  I need to put it in my records.   So if I remove the superscript 4 from the names David and John, will that solve the problem?  Ken   

---

From: marjorie <marjea@wildblue.net>
To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, October 1, 2011 2:49:27 PM
Subject: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Re: Map of Sandy Branch area

 

Ken, your graphic is such a wonderful addition to our site!
Murray relationships are confusing and you will need to adjust your superscripts. James Murray Sr. pat. BUSH. His son David Murray Sr. inherited it. James Murray Jr. pat ADDITION, he was also son of James Sr. He sold parts of it to his brother David Sr. and to David Sr.'s son John. James Jr. had a son David who could be called David Jr. He is the one who "inherited" the Ebenezer Holloway property (his wife Polly Holloway had died so was not mentioned in the partition deed you coded as superscript 5. Another way to show this is:
James Murray Sr > James Murray Jr.(m Nancy Holloway)& David Murray Sr
(m Rhoda Wyatt)> John Murray
James Murray Jr > David Murray Jr. (m1 Polly Holloway, m2 Rachel Dale)

--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "kenbunting@..." <kenbunting@...> wrote:
>
> I've updated the map of Sandy Branch Community with additional
> information. Sorry that to include some of this I have had to expand
> the area, which may make it harder to view, but keeping it the same
> size would have made the print hard to read. The area covered now
> is about 3.6 miles W to E and 3 miles N to S. Please comment and send in whatever you can add. Kindly make your comments in messages since making a reply often requires too much space for that venue. Ken
>

--
Marjorie
"Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, KENNETH BUNTING <kenbunting@...> wrote:
>
> Here is another question, Marjorie.  There is no John Murray in the 1810
> census.  But there is a William.  Was this John's son?  What I am trying to get
> at is who owned the properties in 1810 and my confusing the Murrays has only
> added to the problem.  Ken
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: marjorie <marjea@...>
> To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, October 1, 2011 2:49:27 PM
> Subject: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Re: Map of Sandy Branch area
>
>  
> Ken, your graphic is such a wonderful addition to our site!
> Murray relationships are confusing and you will need to adjust your
> superscripts. James Murray Sr. pat. BUSH. His son David Murray Sr. inherited it.
> James Murray Jr. pat ADDITION, he was also son of James Sr. He sold parts of it
> to his brother David Sr. and to David Sr.'s son John. James Jr. had a son David
> who could be called David Jr. He is the one who "inherited" the Ebenezer
> Holloway property (his wife Polly Holloway had died so was not mentioned in the
> partition deed you coded as superscript 5. Another way to show this is:
> James Murray Sr > James Murray Jr.(m Nancy Holloway)& David Murray Sr
> (m Rhoda Wyatt)> John Murray
> James Murray Jr > David Murray Jr. (m1 Polly Holloway, m2 Rachel Dale)
>
> --- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "kenbunting@"
> <kenbunting@> wrote:
> >
> > I've updated the map of Sandy Branch Community with additional
> > information. Sorry that to include some of this I have had to expand
> > the area, which may make it harder to view, but keeping it the same
> > size would have made the print hard to read. The area covered now
> > is about 3.6 miles W to E and 3 miles N to S. Please comment and send in
> >whatever you can add. Kindly make your comments in messages since making a reply
> >often requires too much space for that venue. Ken
> >
>

--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, KENNETH BUNTING <kenbunting@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Marjorie.  I used your corrections and then deleted and re-added the
> map.  Hope it's right now.
>
> Can you provide the figures for the surveyors description in the 1802 deed
> Murrays Addition from James to David?  There seems to be a discrepancy for that
> portion of the tract between it and the 1776 re-survey for New Addition, but
> this may be due to my misreading of the plats or my math or both.  Ken 
>
>  
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: marjorie adams <marjea@...>
> To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, October 2, 2011 4:37:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Re: Map of Sandy Branch area
>
>  
> only partially--works for John. 
> Remove also from James Jr. since ADDITION was not inherited.  Jr. was the
> patentee.
>
> Remove from David on ADDITION (James Jr. sold it to him) and add to David on
> BUSH (the only property owned by James Sr.) and change a word in your legend
> from heirs to heir.
>
> Now for completeness, there was another son of James Sr., Richard (d1774 bef he
> was 40) who pat 2 tracts in Wor (stayed s of the state line on n & s of Pigg Pen
> Branch, 1 next to Wm Brasure). Richard was oldest son but I have no record of
> marriage or heirs. David and James were next of kin in his inventory and either
> they or his mother got his property. He also bought SAW MILL LOTT, Wocester in
> 1769, 25A part fr John Dennis which was on the north side of a path to Wim.
> Brasure's. I am assuming that it is a different property than Arthur McCabe's
> SAW MILL LOT, owned in Sussex in 1793.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:07 PM, KENNETH BUNTING <kenbunting@...>
> wrote:
>
>  
> >Marjorie, try as I might, I can't seem to get the Murrays unravelled and I
> >appreciate your explanation.  I need to put it in my records.   So if I remove
> >the superscript 4 from the names David and John, will that solve the problem? 
> >Ken   
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ________________________________
> From: marjorie <marjea@...>
> >To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Sat, October 1, 2011 2:49:27 PM
> >Subject: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Re: Map of Sandy Branch area
> >
> > 
> >Ken, your graphic is such a wonderful addition to our site!
> >Murray relationships are confusing and you will need to adjust your
> >superscripts. James Murray Sr. pat. BUSH. His son David Murray Sr. inherited it.
> >James Murray Jr. pat ADDITION, he was also son of James Sr. He sold parts of it
> >to his brother David Sr. and to David Sr.'s son John. James Jr. had a son David
> >who could be called David Jr. He is the one who "inherited" the Ebenezer
> >Holloway property (his wife Polly Holloway had died so was not mentioned in the
> >partition deed you coded as superscript 5. Another way to show this is:
> >James Murray Sr > James Murray Jr.(m Nancy Holloway)& David Murray Sr
> >(m Rhoda Wyatt)> John Murray
> >James Murray Jr > David Murray Jr. (m1 Polly Holloway, m2 Rachel Dale)
> >
> >--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "kenbunting@"
> ><kenbunting@> wrote:
> >>
> >> I've updated the map of Sandy Branch Community with additional
> >> information. Sorry that to include some of this I have had to expand
> >> the area, which may make it harder to view, but keeping it the same
> >> size would have made the print hard to read. The area covered now
> >> is about 3.6 miles W to E and 3 miles N to S. Please comment and send in
> >>whatever you can add. Kindly make your comments in messages since making a reply
> >>often requires too much space for that venue. Ken
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Marjorie
> "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play
> and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
>

--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, KENNETH BUNTING <kenbunting@...> wrote:
>
> Marjorie, I've attached a schematic showing how the words of the two survey
> descriptions differ.  I wish we had the survey coordinates for Murrays Addition,
> but that's life I guess.  Ken
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: marjorie adams <marjea@...>
> To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, October 6, 2011 12:06:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Re: Map of Sandy Branch area
>
>  
> Ken, I will add what I have on those properties in FILES under David MURRAY
>
> --
> Marjorie
> "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play
> and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
>

--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, bluelightning75@... wrote:
>
> I don't know if this MIGHT be a connection or not but in 1845 there is a
> William Jones of Worcester County leaving Maryland land to son William BUT
> leaving Delaware land to Parsons nephews and niece children of his sister
> Sally Parson.
>
>
> In a message dated 10/8/2011 1:03:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> marjea@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Ken,
> Re John Murray, how right you are. After studying the numbers, I think he
> was living with father David, with wife and 4 children. His age is off by
> one category but his wife is the right age and there are 4 children under
> 10. David's youngest was 10-15.
> Re Burrel Jones, Pleasant Grove and james Murray's Addition. There are no
> Jones in Baltimore Hd. even in 1800 but many in MD. We need to handle this
> property some way--"pat. B. Jones, date"?
> James Murray m Martha Jones. I believe she could have been of Isaac since
> son is named Isaac. (There was a Burrel Jones of Isaac but too young to be
> the one who pat the property.) Also James bequeaths property called
> Daniel's Place which I have never identified. Perhaps someone named Daniel lived
> there. So if Martha got the property or part of it, James would have been
> able to bequeath it. Perhaps Addition was either resuryed or considered to
> include all or part of Pleasant Grove. I'll do a bit more checking for Jones
> in Balt. Hd. and get back to you on that. Would be great to solve this
> brick wall of mine.
> --- In _SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com) , KENNETH BUNTING <kenbunting@> wrote:
> >
> > Marjorie, I've attached a schematic showing how the words of the two
> survey
> > descriptions differ. I wish we had the survey coordinates for Murrays
> Addition,
> > but that's life I guess. Ken
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: marjorie adams <marjea@>
> > To: _SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com)
> > Sent: Thu, October 6, 2011 12:06:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Re: Map of Sandy Branch area
> >
> > Â
> > Ken, I will add what I have on those properties in FILES under David
> MURRAY
> >
> > --
> > Marjorie
> > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and
> to play
> > and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
> >
>

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:06 AM, <bluelightning75@aol.com> wrote:

 

I don't know if this MIGHT be a connection or not but in 1845 there is a William Jones of Worcester County leaving Maryland land to son William BUT leaving Delaware land to Parsons nephews and niece children of his sister Sally Parson.

 

In a message dated 10/8/2011 1:03:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, marjea@wildblue.net writes:

 

Ken,
Re John Murray, how right you are. After studying the numbers, I think he was living with father David, with wife and 4 children. His age is off by one category but his wife is the right age and there are 4 children under 10. David's youngest was 10-15.
Re Burrel Jones, Pleasant Grove and james Murray's Addition. There are no Jones in Baltimore Hd. even in 1800 but many in MD. We need to handle this property some way--"pat. B. Jones, date"?
James Murray m Martha Jones. I believe she could have been of Isaac since son is named Isaac. (There was a Burrel Jones of Isaac but too young to be the one who pat the property.) Also James bequeaths property called Daniel's Place which I have never identified. Perhaps someone named Daniel lived there. So if Martha got the property or part of it, James would have been able to bequeath it. Perhaps Addition was either resuryed or considered to include all or part of Pleasant Grove. I'll do a bit more checking for Jones in Balt. Hd. and get back to you on that. Would be great to solve this brick wall of mine.
--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, KENNETH BUNTING <kenbunting@...> wrote:
>
> Marjorie, I've attached a schematic showing how the words of the two survey
> descriptions differ.  I wish we had the survey coordinates for Murrays Addition,
> but that's life I guess.  Ken
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: marjorie adams <marjea@...>
> To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, October 6, 2011 12:06:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Re: Map of Sandy Branch area
>
>  
> Ken, I will add what I have on those properties in FILES under David MURRAY
>
> --
> Marjorie
> "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play
> and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
>

--
Marjorie
"Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "marjorie" <marjea@...> wrote:
>
> Ken, on the next one how about adding name Burrell Jone to Pleasant Grove? "Pleasant Grove 1754-58 30 A p1 unpat cert 1048 of Burrel Jones; on a ridge 1/2 m E of Co.Rd, on the head of St. Martin's River" is in Land Tracts photos.
> --- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, KENNETH BUNTING <kenbunting@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Marjorie.  I used your corrections and then deleted and re-added the
> > map.  Hope it's right now.
> >
> > Can you provide the figures for the surveyors description in the 1802 deed
> > Murrays Addition from James to David?  There seems to be a discrepancy for that
> > portion of the tract between it and the 1776 re-survey for New Addition, but
> > this may be due to my misreading of the plats or my math or both.  Ken 
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: marjorie adams <marjea@>
> > To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sun, October 2, 2011 4:37:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Re: Map of Sandy Branch area
> >
> >  
> > only partially--works for John. 
> > Remove also from James Jr. since ADDITION was not inherited.  Jr. was the
> > patentee.
> >
> > Remove from David on ADDITION (James Jr. sold it to him) and add to David on
> > BUSH (the only property owned by James Sr.) and change a word in your legend
> > from heirs to heir.
> >
> > Now for completeness, there was another son of James Sr., Richard (d1774 bef he
> > was 40) who pat 2 tracts in Wor (stayed s of the state line on n & s of Pigg Pen
> > Branch, 1 next to Wm Brasure). Richard was oldest son but I have no record of
> > marriage or heirs. David and James were next of kin in his inventory and either
> > they or his mother got his property. He also bought SAW MILL LOTT, Wocester in
> > 1769, 25A part fr John Dennis which was on the north side of a path to Wim.
> > Brasure's. I am assuming that it is a different property than Arthur McCabe's
> > SAW MILL LOT, owned in Sussex in 1793.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:07 PM, KENNETH BUNTING <kenbunting@>
> > wrote:
> >
> >  
> > >Marjorie, try as I might, I can't seem to get the Murrays unravelled and I
> > >appreciate your explanation.  I need to put it in my records.   So if I remove
> > >the superscript 4 from the names David and John, will that solve the problem? 
> > >Ken   
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ________________________________
> > From: marjorie <marjea@>
> > >To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
> > >Sent: Sat, October 1, 2011 2:49:27 PM
> > >Subject: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Re: Map of Sandy Branch area
> > >
> > > 
> > >Ken, your graphic is such a wonderful addition to our site!
> > >Murray relationships are confusing and you will need to adjust your
> > >superscripts. James Murray Sr. pat. BUSH. His son David Murray Sr. inherited it.
> > >James Murray Jr. pat ADDITION, he was also son of James Sr. He sold parts of it
> > >to his brother David Sr. and to David Sr.'s son John. James Jr. had a son David
> > >who could be called David Jr. He is the one who "inherited" the Ebenezer
> > >Holloway property (his wife Polly Holloway had died so was not mentioned in the
> > >partition deed you coded as superscript 5. Another way to show this is:
> > >James Murray Sr > James Murray Jr.(m Nancy Holloway)& David Murray Sr
> > >(m Rhoda Wyatt)> John Murray
> > >James Murray Jr > David Murray Jr. (m1 Polly Holloway, m2 Rachel Dale)
> > >
> > >--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "kenbunting@"
> > ><kenbunting@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I've updated the map of Sandy Branch Community with additional
> > >> information. Sorry that to include some of this I have had to expand
> > >> the area, which may make it harder to view, but keeping it the same
> > >> size would have made the print hard to read. The area covered now
> > >> is about 3.6 miles W to E and 3 miles N to S. Please comment and send in
> > >>whatever you can add. Kindly make your comments in messages since making a reply
> > >>often requires too much space for that venue. Ken
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marjorie
> > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play
> > and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
> >
>

--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, marjorie adams <marjea@...> wrote:
>
> Ken,
> Apparently "Harrison's Outlet" was mostly in Wor. It appears on a map sent
> to me from the Worcester Rm of Wor Public Library in Snow Hill, n.d. but
> labeled Worcester Co. MD, Western Part, St. Martins, No. 5, Election
> Distric, Map No 31 It appears that a teeny portion of it was in DE. It was
> east of Cow Quarter, not south. My 4gr grandfather Severn Murray of James Jr
> (m Nancy McCabe of Arthur) bought in 1820 51A of it from Solomon Carey. I do
> not know if his purchase included the DE portion. He was said to have lived
> in Whaleysville.
>
> "Cow Quarter" is also a property that was in my family. It was also mostly
> in Wor, according to the map cited above, but had a slightly larger portion
> in DE. It was passed down from David Murray (son of James Sr.and brother of
> James Jr.), sold to son John, bequeathed to son Lott, sold to Henrietta &
> husband Charles Henry Long (my grandmother was born there), to son Frank
> Long. I have childhood memories of going there, out Gumboro Rd. turning to
> the south. Since Harrison's Outlet was east of it it would have been abt.
> where 113 is today.
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:49 PM, kenbunting@... <
> kenbunting@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Marjorie, it seems to me that the tract Harrisons Outlet to Erasmus
> > Harrison 1759, issued by Wor Co Md, must have ended up in Wor Co during
> > the resurveys c 1775-76. It apparently lay just South of Cows Quarter right
> > at the state line, close to where Rte 113 is now. Do you have any other
> > information on this? Ken
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Marjorie
> "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to
> play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
>

--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "kenbunting@..." <kenbunting@...> wrote:
>
> Marjorie, does this map of WO Co also show Tubbs Recovery? Ken
>
> --- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, marjorie adams <marjea@> wrote:
> >
> > Ken,
> > Apparently "Harrison's Outlet" was mostly in Wor. It appears on a map sent
> > to me from the Worcester Rm of Wor Public Library in Snow Hill, n.d. but
> > labeled Worcester Co. MD, Western Part, St. Martins, No. 5, Election
> > Distric, Map No 31 It appears that a teeny portion of it was in DE. It was
> > east of Cow Quarter, not south. My 4gr grandfather Severn Murray of James Jr
> > (m Nancy McCabe of Arthur) bought in 1820 51A of it from Solomon Carey. I do
> > not know if his purchase included the DE portion. He was said to have lived
> > in Whaleysville.
> >
> > "Cow Quarter" is also a property that was in my family. It was also mostly
> > in Wor, according to the map cited above, but had a slightly larger portion
> > in DE. It was passed down from David Murray (son of James Sr.and brother of
> > James Jr.), sold to son John, bequeathed to son Lott, sold to Henrietta &
> > husband Charles Henry Long (my grandmother was born there), to son Frank
> > Long. I have childhood memories of going there, out Gumboro Rd. turning to
> > the south. Since Harrison's Outlet was east of it it would have been abt.
> > where 113 is today.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:49 PM, kenbunting@ <
> > kenbunting@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Marjorie, it seems to me that the tract Harrisons Outlet to Erasmus
> > > Harrison 1759, issued by Wor Co Md, must have ended up in Wor Co during
> > > the resurveys c 1775-76. It apparently lay just South of Cows Quarter right
> > > at the state line, close to where Rte 113 is now. Do you have any other
> > > information on this? Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marjorie
> > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to
> > play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
> >
>

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:12 PM, <bluelightning75@aol.com> wrote:

 

I wonder if Tubbs Recover could be where Tubbs Cove is today. But that is west of Fenwick Island.

 

In a message dated 10/12/2011 9:50:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, marjea@wildblue.net writes:

 

No Tubbs Recovery on this map.

--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "kenbunting@..." <kenbunting@...> wrote:
>
> Marjorie, does this map of WO Co also show Tubbs Recovery? Ken
>
> --- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, marjorie adams <marjea@> wrote:
> >
> > Ken,
> > Apparently "Harrison's Outlet" was mostly in Wor. It appears on a map sent
> > to me from the Worcester Rm of Wor Public Library in Snow Hill, n.d. but
> > labeled Worcester Co. MD, Western Part, St. Martins, No. 5, Election
> > Distric, Map No 31 It appears that a teeny portion of it was in DE. It was
> > east of Cow Quarter, not south. My 4gr grandfather Severn Murray of James Jr
> > (m Nancy McCabe of Arthur) bought in 1820 51A of it from Solomon Carey. I do
> > not know if his purchase included the DE portion. He was said to have lived
> > in Whaleysville.
> >
> > "Cow Quarter" is also a property that was in my family. It was also mostly
> > in Wor, according to the map cited above, but had a slightly larger portion
> > in DE. It was passed down from David Murray (son of James Sr.and brother of
> > James Jr.), sold to son John, bequeathed to son Lott, sold to Henrietta &
> > husband Charles Henry Long (my grandmother was born there), to son Frank
> > Long. I have childhood memories of going there, out Gumboro Rd. turning to
> > the south. Since Harrison's Outlet was east of it it would have been abt.
> > where 113 is today.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:49 PM, kenbunting@ <
> > kenbunting@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Marjorie, it seems to me that the tract Harrisons Outlet to Erasmus
> > > Harrison 1759, issued by Wor Co Md, must have ended up in Wor Co during
> > > the resurveys c 1775-76. It apparently lay just South of Cows Quarter right
> > > at the state line, close to where Rte 113 is now. Do you have any other
> > > information on this? Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marjorie
> > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to
> > play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
> >
>

--
Marjorie
"Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, marjorie adams <marjea@...> wrote:
>
> I think not; see Photos: Tracts nr Sandy Branch
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:12 PM, <bluelightning75@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > **
> > I wonder if Tubbs Recover could be where Tubbs Cove is today. But that
> > is west of Fenwick Island.
> >
> > In a message dated 10/12/2011 9:50:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > marjea@... writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > No Tubbs Recovery on this map.
> >
> > --- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "kenbunting@"
> > <kenbunting@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Marjorie, does this map of WO Co also show Tubbs Recovery? Ken
> > >
> > > --- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, marjorie adams
> > <marjea@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ken,
> > > > Apparently "Harrison's Outlet" was mostly in Wor. It appears on a map
> > sent
> > > > to me from the Worcester Rm of Wor Public Library in Snow Hill, n.d.
> > but
> > > > labeled Worcester Co. MD, Western Part, St. Martins, No. 5, Election
> > > > Distric, Map No 31 It appears that a teeny portion of it was in DE. It
> > was
> > > > east of Cow Quarter, not south. My 4gr grandfather Severn Murray of
> > James Jr
> > > > (m Nancy McCabe of Arthur) bought in 1820 51A of it from Solomon Carey.
> > I do
> > > > not know if his purchase included the DE portion. He was said to have
> > lived
> > > > in Whaleysville.
> > > >
> > > > "Cow Quarter" is also a property that was in my family. It was also
> > mostly
> > > > in Wor, according to the map cited above, but had a slightly larger
> > portion
> > > > in DE. It was passed down from David Murray (son of James Sr.and
> > brother of
> > > > James Jr.), sold to son John, bequeathed to son Lott, sold to Henrietta
> > &
> > > > husband Charles Henry Long (my grandmother was born there), to son
> > Frank
> > > > Long. I have childhood memories of going there, out Gumboro Rd. turning
> > to
> > > > the south. Since Harrison's Outlet was east of it it would have been
> > abt.
> > > > where 113 is today.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:49 PM, kenbunting@ <
> > > > kenbunting@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Marjorie, it seems to me that the tract Harrisons Outlet to Erasmus
> > > > > Harrison 1759, issued by Wor Co Md, must have ended up in Wor Co
> > during
> > > > > the resurveys c 1775-76. It apparently lay just South of Cows Quarter
> > right
> > > > > at the state line, close to where Rte 113 is now. Do you have any
> > other
> > > > > information on this? Ken
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Marjorie
> > > > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work
> > and to
> > > > play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Marjorie
> "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to
> play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
>

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:47 PM, kenbunting@bellsouth.net <kenbunting@bellsouth.net> wrote:

 

The description of Tubbs Recovery begins at a point near Pig Pen
Branch. John Lyons' preliminary map shows it adjacent to Friends
Assistance, but Friends Assistance was SE of Selbyville. Present day
Pig Pen Branch is SW of Selbyville over a mile away. There could
have been more than one Friends Assistance and more than one Pig Pen
Branch. Also the surveyor may have considered Carey Branch to be an
extension of Pig Pen Branch as far as the river, but this seems odd
because Carey Branch comes from near Ebenezer Church and Pig Pen
Branch is a tributary of it from Pig Pen Swamp, or what's left of it.
Other ideas anyone?

--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, marjorie adams <marjea@...> wrote:
>
> I think not; see Photos: Tracts nr Sandy Branch
>

> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:12 PM, <bluelightning75@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > **

> > I wonder if Tubbs Recover could be where Tubbs Cove is today. But that
> > is west of Fenwick Island.
> >
> > In a message dated 10/12/2011 9:50:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > marjea@... writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > No Tubbs Recovery on this map.
> >
> > --- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "kenbunting@"

> > <kenbunting@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Marjorie, does this map of WO Co also show Tubbs Recovery? Ken
> > >
> > > --- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, marjorie adams
> > <marjea@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ken,
> > > > Apparently "Harrison's Outlet" was mostly in Wor. It appears on a map
> > sent
> > > > to me from the Worcester Rm of Wor Public Library in Snow Hill, n.d.
> > but
> > > > labeled Worcester Co. MD, Western Part, St. Martins, No. 5, Election
> > > > Distric, Map No 31 It appears that a teeny portion of it was in DE. It
> > was
> > > > east of Cow Quarter, not south. My 4gr grandfather Severn Murray of
> > James Jr
> > > > (m Nancy McCabe of Arthur) bought in 1820 51A of it from Solomon Carey.
> > I do
> > > > not know if his purchase included the DE portion. He was said to have
> > lived
> > > > in Whaleysville.
> > > >
> > > > "Cow Quarter" is also a property that was in my family. It was also
> > mostly
> > > > in Wor, according to the map cited above, but had a slightly larger
> > portion
> > > > in DE. It was passed down from David Murray (son of James Sr.and
> > brother of
> > > > James Jr.), sold to son John, bequeathed to son Lott, sold to Henrietta
> > &
> > > > husband Charles Henry Long (my grandmother was born there), to son
> > Frank
> > > > Long. I have childhood memories of going there, out Gumboro Rd. turning
> > to
> > > > the south. Since Harrison's Outlet was east of it it would have been
> > abt.
> > > > where 113 is today.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:49 PM, kenbunting@ <
> > > > kenbunting@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Marjorie, it seems to me that the tract Harrisons Outlet to Erasmus
> > > > > Harrison 1759, issued by Wor Co Md, must have ended up in Wor Co
> > during
> > > > > the resurveys c 1775-76. It apparently lay just South of Cows Quarter
> > right
> > > > > at the state line, close to where Rte 113 is now. Do you have any
> > other
> > > > > information on this? Ken
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Marjorie
> > > > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work
> > and to
> > > > play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Marjorie
> "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to
> play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
>

--
Marjorie
"Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:24 PM, <bluelightning75@aol.com> wrote:

 

yes, then as the road crosses Rt 113, the road becomes known as Morris road.

 

 

In a message dated 10/13/2011 4:47:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kenbunting@bellsouth.net writes:

 

Do you mean below where Hotel Rd joins Hwy 113?

 

---

From: "bluelightning75@aol.com" <bluelightning75@aol.com>
To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 13, 2011 3:22:54 PM
Subject: Re: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Re: Harrisons Outlet 1759

 

I think Pig Pen Branch is the little creek that is just south of Selbyville. It would be between the Elk's lodge and Hotel Road. I might be wrong but that is my opinion.

 

 

 

In a message dated 10/13/2011 1:48:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kenbunting@bellsouth.net writes:

 

The description of Tubbs Recovery begins at a point near Pig Pen
Branch. John Lyons' preliminary map shows it adjacent to Friends
Assistance, but Friends Assistance was SE of Selbyville. Present day
Pig Pen Branch is SW of Selbyville over a mile away. There could
have been more than one Friends Assistance and more than one Pig Pen
Branch. Also the surveyor may have considered Carey Branch to be an
extension of Pig Pen Branch as far as the river, but this seems odd
because Carey Branch comes from near Ebenezer Church and Pig Pen
Branch is a tributary of it from Pig Pen Swamp, or what's left of it.
Other ideas anyone?


--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, marjorie adams <marjea@...> wrote:
>
> I think not; see Photos: Tracts nr Sandy Branch
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:12 PM, <bluelightning75@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > **
> > I wonder if Tubbs Recover could be where Tubbs Cove is today. But that
> > is west of Fenwick Island.
> >
> > In a message dated 10/12/2011 9:50:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > marjea@... writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > No Tubbs Recovery on this map.
> >
> > --- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "kenbunting@"
> > <kenbunting@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Marjorie, does this map of WO Co also show Tubbs Recovery? Ken
> > >
> > > --- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, marjorie adams
> > <marjea@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ken,
> > > > Apparently "Harrison's Outlet" was mostly in Wor. It appears on a map
> > sent
> > > > to me from the Worcester Rm of Wor Public Library in Snow Hill, n.d.
> > but
> > > > labeled Worcester Co. MD, Western Part, St. Martins, No. 5, Election
> > > > Distric, Map No 31 It appears that a teeny portion of it was in DE. It
> > was
> > > > east of Cow Quarter, not south. My 4gr grandfather Severn Murray of
> > James Jr
> > > > (m Nancy McCabe of Arthur) bought in 1820 51A of it from Solomon Carey.
> > I do
> > > > not know if his purchase included the DE portion. He was said to have
> > lived
> > > > in Whaleysville.
> > > >
> > > > "Cow Quarter" is also a property that was in my family. It was also
> > mostly
> > > > in Wor, according to the map cited above, but had a slightly larger
> > portion
> > > > in DE. It was passed down from David Murray (son of James Sr.and
> > brother of
> > > > James Jr.), sold to son John, bequeathed to son Lott, sold to Henrietta
> > &
> > > > husband Charles Henry Long (my grandmother was born there), to son
> > Frank
> > > > Long. I have childhood memories of going there, out Gumboro Rd. turning
> > to
> > > > the south. Since Harrison's Outlet was east of it it would have been
> > abt.
> > > > where 113 is today.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:49 PM, kenbunting@ <
> > > > kenbunting@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Marjorie, it seems to me that the tract Harrisons Outlet to Erasmus
> > > > > Harrison 1759, issued by Wor Co Md, must have ended up in Wor Co
> > during
> > > > > the resurveys c 1775-76. It apparently lay just South of Cows Quarter
> > right
> > > > > at the state line, close to where Rte 113 is now. Do you have any
> > other
> > > > > information on this? Ken
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Marjorie
> > > > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work
> > and to
> > > > play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Marjorie
> "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to
> play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
>

--
Marjorie
"Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 8:39 PM, KENNETH BUNTING <kenbunting@bellsouth.net> wrote:

 

Marjorie, if John Lyon is correct and Richards Addition touched 113 on the its right, and lay just south of the DE line at about Morris Road, then I need to move Harrisons Outlet since that is the same location where I have parked Harrisons Outlet in my map.  Weren't they patented a year apart?  Is there a description of Richards Addition availahle?  Ken

---

From: marjorie adams <marjea@wildblue.net>
To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 13, 2011 3:17:12 PM

Subject: Re: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Re: Harrisons Outlet 1759

 

Ken, maybe some of this will help
22 Apr 1820 Severn Murray of James Jr. (m Nancy McCabe of Arthur) bought 2 tracts, Harrises (sic) Outlet 51A and Parnership 26 A in St. Martin's Wor. from Sollomon Carey(wife Elizabeth), wit: Adam Bravard, Kendle Holloway. Left to Nancy 1840.

On the Map we spoke of previously there is a large blank area between Harrison's Outlet and the next tract which is Friend's Assistance 500A (not shown going into DE)

I speculate that in this blank area were 2 tracts of Richard Murray, brother of James Jr. and David, Saw Mill Lott (bought 25A from John Dennis1769, "n. side of path leading to William Brazer's")and Richard's Addition (pat1760) "back in forrist, s side Pigeon (Pigg Pen?) Branch next to Wm Brazer" -- perhaps this touched Bush of James Murray Sr. He also pat 1759 "Pleasant Hill", 81A, Wor Co MD, as "son of James Murray Sr"- nw of Piggpen Branch of St. Martin's River & w of a County Rd"; it lies just s of the blank area on the maps.
There were several maps: Friends assistance showed on the Central part of St. Martins no5 Election District; the blank area showed on both Central and Western which is where Harrison's Outlet was.
When I asked John Lyon a few yrs. ago if it was abt where 113 is now, his email answer was that "RICHARDS ADDITION (Wo Patented Cert 2156) lay just south of the State line, touching U.S. 113 on its east.  Its northern edge came close to what is shown as Morris Road when I look at Google Maps southwest of Selbyville.  There's a little stream through there which would be (or could have been called) Pig Pen
    Branch, of which RICHARDS ADDITION was "south"..

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:47 PM, kenbunting@bellsouth.net <kenbunting@bellsouth.net> wrote:

 

The description of Tubbs Recovery begins at a point near Pig Pen
Branch. John Lyons' preliminary map shows it adjacent to Friends
Assistance, but Friends Assistance was SE of Selbyville. Present day
Pig Pen Branch is SW of Selbyville over a mile away. There could
have been more than one Friends Assistance and more than one Pig Pen
Branch. Also the surveyor may have considered Carey Branch to be an
extension of Pig Pen Branch as far as the river, but this seems odd
because Carey Branch comes from near Ebenezer Church and Pig Pen
Branch is a tributary of it from Pig Pen Swamp, or what's left of it.
Other ideas anyone?

--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, marjorie adams <marjea@...> wrote:
>
> I think not; see Photos: Tracts nr Sandy Branch
>

> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:12 PM, <bluelightning75@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > **

> > I wonder if Tubbs Recover could be where Tubbs Cove is today. But that
> > is west of Fenwick Island.
> >
> > In a message dated 10/12/2011 9:50:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > marjea@... writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > No Tubbs Recovery on this map.
> >
> > --- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "kenbunting@"

> > <kenbunting@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Marjorie, does this map of WO Co also show Tubbs Recovery? Ken
> > >
> > > --- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, marjorie adams
> > <marjea@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ken,
> > > > Apparently "Harrison's Outlet" was mostly in Wor. It appears on a map
> > sent
> > > > to me from the Worcester Rm of Wor Public Library in Snow Hill, n.d.
> > but
> > > > labeled Worcester Co. MD, Western Part, St. Martins, No. 5, Election
> > > > Distric, Map No 31 It appears that a teeny portion of it was in DE. It
> > was
> > > > east of Cow Quarter, not south. My 4gr grandfather Severn Murray of
> > James Jr
> > > > (m Nancy McCabe of Arthur) bought in 1820 51A of it from Solomon Carey.
> > I do
> > > > not know if his purchase included the DE portion. He was said to have
> > lived
> > > > in Whaleysville.
> > > >
> > > > "Cow Quarter" is also a property that was in my family. It was also
> > mostly
> > > > in Wor, according to the map cited above, but had a slightly larger
> > portion
> > > > in DE. It was passed down from David Murray (son of James Sr.and
> > brother of
> > > > James Jr.), sold to son John, bequeathed to son Lott, sold to Henrietta
> > &
> > > > husband Charles Henry Long (my grandmother was born there), to son
> > Frank
> > > > Long. I have childhood memories of going there, out Gumboro Rd. turning
> > to
> > > > the south. Since Harrison's Outlet was east of it it would have been
> > abt.
> > > > where 113 is today.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:49 PM, kenbunting@ <
> > > > kenbunting@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Marjorie, it seems to me that the tract Harrisons Outlet to Erasmus
> > > > > Harrison 1759, issued by Wor Co Md, must have ended up in Wor Co
> > during
> > > > > the resurveys c 1775-76. It apparently lay just South of Cows Quarter
> > right
> > > > > at the state line, close to where Rte 113 is now. Do you have any
> > other
> > > > > information on this? Ken
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Marjorie
> > > > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work
> > and to
> > > > play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Marjorie
> "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to
> play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
>

--
Marjorie
"Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

--
Marjorie
"Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke

--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, Nina Bunting <beberingler@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> W.L. Hudson's home was around the curve (right side) on Polly Branch Rd. It is pictured in the Hudson History I sent you--------the home Aunt Edna ,Uncle Willie, and Bill Hutt lived in.
>  NL
> From: marjorie <marjea@...>
> To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:07 AM
> Subject: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Old homes in Selbyville
>
>
>  
> anyone have photos? or know ones which were there by 1910-20.
> Nina Lou, where was William L. Hudson's home? and what can you tell us about it?
>

>Ken, can you read the patent desription I just added --it is very light. Looking at what I had on Miles and Belitha Hudson for Bill Hudson I just realized I should check Somerset since it was pat 1715-18.

> Ken,I just added the Jessee Gray 1813 Wor LWT to Files. Note that in addition to Smallwoods Security which you have been trying to place on the map it mentions "Buntens Mills" (plural but could be a mistake). Also note in 'Files-Land tracts nr. Sandy Branch' that the 1805 deed to Arthur McCabe for 1/2 of Chance states that in 1804 Jonathan Burtin (probably Buntin) had rec'd the other half. This is probably the deed that I have been looking for that proved McCabe and Bunting held the Mill in partnership. Also, since you have studied Buntins Mill does either of these facts give you any more insight into the ownership of the 2 Mills at Selbyville that Beers Atlas shows by 1868?
> <marjea@> wrote:
> >
> > There are over 500 records on plats.net with Chance in the title and even
> > with no descriptive adjective there were many, many named "Chance". Beth,
> > the Cypress Swamp stretched from below the MD/DE line all the way up to at
> > least Dagsboro. John Lyon is correct: the early Hudsons were in what is now
> > Worcester or just over the line in Sussex, Baltimore Hd. except for the
> > group that went farther north to Cedar Creek Hd.
> > It was your later Hudsons who were around Dagsboro.
> > On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Beth ann Wolpert <elizwolpert@>wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Ken and Pat, Could this be the same CHANCE that was once owned by Richard
> > > Hudson and then his son John? Perhaps the John Lyon map has it placed too
> > > far south, below the state line. It would make sense for the property to be
> > > located where you said, Ken, near the swamp, for the Hudson family lived in
> > > that area. Perhaps it was an earlier state line Lyon was not thinking of. Is
> > > that area near Pollys Branch? What else do you know about CHANCE, Pat?
> > >
> > > --- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, KENNETH BUNTING
> > > <kenbunting@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for this additional information, Patricia.� If this Chance is
> > > coupled
> > > > with Unity Grove as the abstract seems to say, then I� think� it would
> > > lie toward
> > > > Cypress Swamp west of the Frankford-Dagsboro area.
> > > > � Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: PATRICIA WYANT <pwyant@>
> > > > To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 7:50:05 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Chance
> > > >
> > > > �
> > > > 0-14:156 - Land Records - Deed of Sale.� This Indenture made 03 Dec 1789
> > > between
> > > > John Jones Esq of Sussex Co, DE of the one part and Dagworthy Jones of
> > > the same
> > > > place of the other part. John Jones for the sum of 40 pounds sold to
> > > Dagworthy
> > > > Jones a tract of land called Chance formerly in Worcester Co, but now in
> > > Sussex
> > > > Co, being back in Indian Forest at the head of Martins River laid out for
> > > 100
> > > > acres, also one half part of a tract called Unity Grove resurveyed by
> > > virtue of
> > > > a Warrant of Resurvey obtained from John Penn Esq dtd at Philadelphia 10
> > > Oct
> > > > 1776 and resurveyed 17 Dec following containing an estimated 1080 acres
> > > of land.
> > > >
> > > > I have more if you are interested??
> > > >
> > > > Pat
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 7/20/11, kenbunting@ <kenbunting@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: kenbunting@ <kenbunting@>
> > > > >Subject: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Chance
> > > > >To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 6:07 PM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >�
> > > > >Blue Lightening and Marjorie, Yahoo finally lets me know what Chance you
> > > two are
> > > > >discussing. Without seeing the deed, I wouldn't want to verify that this
> > > is
> > > > >Jonathan Buntin/Bunting. There is a Jonathan Burton in the census that
> > > > >transcribers tend to confuse with him. But I think it probably is Buntin
> > > since
> > > > >he partnered with Arthur McCabe. I still have no idea where this
> > > property could
> > > > >have been.
> > > > >Nor was it Jonathan's only mill. He was taxed for a mill in the
> > > assessment of
> > > > >1803/04; most likely the one at Buntins Desire. It occurs to me that the
> > > sawmill
> > > > >that was on Lighthouse Rd and was the one for which Coleman Jr. named
> > > his
> > > > >development called Bunting Pond could have been Chance. This makes sense
> > > in
> > > > >light of the fact that Chance adjoined the property Friendship which
> > > bordered
> > > > >the MD line.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marjorie
> > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to
> > play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
> >
>

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:55 PM, KENNETH BUNTING <kenbunting@bellsouth.net> wrote:

 

Marjorie, thanks yes I can read it.  As a matter of fact I had to read it over again a couple of times because the shape and orientation is rather surprising.  I was hoping for something similar to the one shown by John Lyon and it isn't.  I have made a drawing for my file but  it doesn't seem to fit the Sandy Branch area, at least in 1810, even allowing for property line changes during 100 years.  Ken   

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From: marjorie <marjea@wildblue.net>
To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 21, 2011 1:15:27 PM
Subject: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Re: Chance original patent found in Somerset

 

--- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "marjorie" <marjea@...> wrote:
>Ken, can you read the patent desription I just added --it is very light. Looking at what I had on Miles and Belitha Hudson for Bill Hudson I just realized I should check Somerset since it was pat 1715-18.

> Ken,I just added the Jessee Gray 1813 Wor LWT to Files. Note that in addition to Smallwoods Security which you have been trying to place on the map it mentions "Buntens Mills" (plural but could be a mistake). Also note in 'Files-Land tracts nr. Sandy Branch' that the 1805 deed to Arthur McCabe for 1/2 of Chance states that in 1804 Jonathan Burtin (probably Buntin) had rec'd the other half. This is probably the deed that I have been looking for that proved McCabe and Bunting held the Mill in partnership. Also, since you have studied Buntins Mill does either of these facts give you any more insight into the ownership of the 2 Mills at Selbyville that Beers Atlas shows by 1868?
> <marjea@> wrote:
> >
> > There are over 500 records on plats.net with Chance in the title and even
> > with no descriptive adjective there were many, many named "Chance". Beth,
> > the Cypress Swamp stretched from below the MD/DE line all the way up to at
> > least Dagsboro. John Lyon is correct: the early Hudsons were in what is now
> > Worcester or just over the line in Sussex, Baltimore Hd. except for the
> > group that went farther north to Cedar Creek Hd.
> > It was your later Hudsons who were around Dagsboro.
> > On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Beth ann Wolpert <elizwolpert@>wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Ken and Pat, Could this be the same CHANCE that was once owned by Richard
> > > Hudson and then his son John? Perhaps the John Lyon map has it placed too
> > > far south, below the state line. It would make sense for the property to be
> > > located where you said, Ken, near the swamp, for the Hudson family lived in
> > > that area. Perhaps it was an earlier state line Lyon was not thinking of. Is
> > > that area near Pollys Branch? What else do you know about CHANCE, Pat?
> > >
> > > --- In SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, KENNETH BUNTING
> > > <kenbunting@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for this additional information, Patricia.� If this Chance is
> > > coupled
> > > > with Unity Grove as the abstract seems to say, then I� think� it would
> > > lie toward
> > > > Cypress Swamp west of the Frankford-Dagsboro area.
> > > > � Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: PATRICIA WYANT <pwyant@>
> > > > To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 7:50:05 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Chance
> > > >
> > > > �
> > > > 0-14:156 - Land Records - Deed of Sale.� This Indenture made 03 Dec 1789
> > > between
> > > > John Jones Esq of Sussex Co, DE of the one part and Dagworthy Jones of
> > > the same
> > > > place of the other part. John Jones for the sum of 40 pounds sold to
> > > Dagworthy
> > > > Jones a tract of land called Chance formerly in Worcester Co, but now in
> > > Sussex
> > > > Co, being back in Indian Forest at the head of Martins River laid out for
> > > 100
> > > > acres, also one half part of a tract called Unity Grove resurveyed by
> > > virtue of
> > > > a Warrant of Resurvey obtained from John Penn Esq dtd at Philadelphia 10
> > > Oct
> > > > 1776 and resurveyed 17 Dec following containing an estimated 1080 acres
> > > of land.
> > > >
> > > > I have more if you are interested??
> > > >
> > > > Pat
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 7/20/11, kenbunting@ <kenbunting@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: kenbunting@ <kenbunting@>
> > > > >Subject: [SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy] Chance
> > > > >To: SelbyvilleHistoryAndGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 6:07 PM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >�
> > > > >Blue Lightening and Marjorie, Yahoo finally lets me know what Chance you
> > > two are
> > > > >discussing. Without seeing the deed, I wouldn't want to verify that this
> > > is
> > > > >Jonathan Buntin/Bunting. There is a Jonathan Burton in the census that
> > > > >transcribers tend to confuse with him. But I think it probably is Buntin
> > > since
> > > > >he partnered with Arthur McCabe. I still have no idea where this
> > > property could
> > > > >have been.
> > > > >Nor was it Jonathan's only mill. He was taxed for a mill in the
> > > assessment of
> > > > >1803/04; most likely the one at Buntins Desire. It occurs to me that the
> > > sawmill
> > > > >that was on Lighthouse Rd and was the one for which Coleman Jr. named
> > > his
> > > > >development called Bunting Pond could have been Chance. This makes sense
> > > in
> > > > >light of the fact that Chance adjoined the property Friendship which
> > > bordered
> > > > >the MD line.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marjorie
> > "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to
> > play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke
> >
>

--
Marjorie
"Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars."~ Henry Van Dyke